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Etienne
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 5:30 am    Post subject: Quitclaim, gift tax calculation. Mortgage liability deductio Reply with quote

I would like to have some input about the following
situation (have split up a long story in separate
questions):

Joint tenants A, B, C and D quitclaim their interest in a
property to C and D. Effectively this means that A and B
quitclaim to C and D (A and B are removed from the title).

The reason for quitclaim is a refinancing. The new mortgage
has only tenants C and D on the deed of trust. According to
the title company, A and B either need to quitclaim, or be
added to the mortgage.

So after everything is done, both the mortgage and the title
are only in the names of C and D, as joint tenants.

I understand that this will be considered a gift from A and
B of their portion to C and D by the IRS. Actually, on the
quitclaim deed, someone (title company?) had scribbled
(after notarized signing):

"This is a bonafide gift, grantor received nothing in return"

How is the value of the gift determined for A and B?
Their cost base: $200,000
FMV: $400,000
Mortgage balance: $175,000

1. Am I correct that for both A and B the value of the gift
is 25% of $400,000 minus 25% of $175,000 = $56,250?

2. Is it correct to deduct 25% of the mortgage, while each
tenant is joint and several liable? The potential liability
of which each tenant is released is the full $175,000....

3. Do any other (income?) taxes come into play because of
any gain?

Thanks,

Etienne

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Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 5:30 am    Post subject: Re: Quitclaim, gift tax calculation. Mortgage liability dedu Reply with quote

Etienne wrote:

Quote:
The reason for quitclaim is a refinancing. The new mortgage
has only tenants C and D on the deed of trust. According to
the title company, A and B either need to quitclaim, or be
added to the mortgage.

Question: Does this mean that A and B will no longer have
any ownership interest in the property whatsoever? Or do
they still retain some right to (say) be cut in on the
eventual gain on sale and/or to get their money back at some
point ???

MTW

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Etienne
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 5:31 am    Post subject: Re: Quitclaim, gift tax calculation. Mortgage liability dedu Reply with quote

"MTW" <mtwingcpa@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Etienne wrote:

The reason for quitclaim is a refinancing. The new mortgage
has only tenants C and D on the deed of trust. According to
the title company, A and B either need to quitclaim, or be
added to the mortgage.

Question: Does this mean that A and B will no longer have
any ownership interest in the property whatsoever? Or do
they still retain some right to (say) be cut in on the
eventual gain on sale and/or to get their money back at some
point ???

Right now, based on the quitclaim deed, they would no longer
have any ownership whatsoever. Agreements could be arranged
however if it makes things easier for taxes.

-Etienne

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