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tonyhedge
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 3:46 pm    Post subject: Classification for Investment Transactions Reply with quote

I use classifications to organise my transactions for reporting. For example
I have one which identifies a transaction as Capital or Current.

I can't find a way of allocating a classification to an investment
transaction. OK, I can 'classify' the associated transfer in/out of the
associated Investment (Cash) account, but then that is only classifying the
transfer, not the actual income or expenditure, so of course it doesn't
appear in Income/Expenditure reports.

Am I missing something, or is there no support for classifications in
Investment accounts?

I'm using Money 2005 UK, BTW.

Thanks.

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Dick Watson
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Classification for Investment Transactions Reply with quote

I don't think you are missing anything. In a certain way, this makes sense.
Can you classify the balance in an account? Think of your investments as a
balance by other means.

"tonyhedge" <tonyhedge@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Am I missing something, or is there no support for classifications in
Investment accounts?
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tonyhedge
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Classification for Investment Transactions Reply with quote

Dick

Thanks for the suggestion. No, I cannot classify a balance. I can only
classify transfers in and out, which to me seems inconsistent. Things like
buying or selling a stock are expense and income. Likewise incurring
management fees or earning dividend. Moving that dividend from my investment
acount to my bank account is a transfer, and in accounting (and MS Money)
terms not an income.

Thanks
Tony

"Dick Watson" wrote:

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I don't think you are missing anything. In a certain way, this makes sense.
Can you classify the balance in an account? Think of your investments as a
balance by other means.

"tonyhedge" <tonyhedge@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B0773A11-4A2D-4C3F-9B7F-15AD86F0F15E@microsoft.com...
Am I missing something, or is there no support for classifications in
Investment accounts?




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Dick Watson
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Classification for Investment Transactions Reply with quote

Well, you raise a few provocative issues. I was thinking you were talking
about classifying the Investment holding, but the transactions involved are
an interesting issue.

I would not view Buying and Selling investments as Income or Expense any
more than a Transfer is Income or Expense. But it's true you can classify a
Transfer and not a Buy/Sell. Likewise things like Reinvest Dividends and so
forth are Income and cannot be classified. As to management fees, I usually
treat these as a Sell (cannot be classified) and an Expense in the cash
account that can be classified.

I guess I agree--were I designing the thing, the Investment Activities would
be equally classifiable to all other transactions. I'll have to check and
make sure my Access model of "how this would work if I designed it" can
accommodate this. I think it can.

"tonyhedge" <tonyhedge@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Thanks for the suggestion. No, I cannot classify a balance. I can only
classify transfers in and out, which to me seems inconsistent. Things like
buying or selling a stock are expense and income. Likewise incurring
management fees or earning dividend. Moving that dividend from my
investment
acount to my bank account is a transfer, and in accounting (and MS Money)
terms not an income.
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Dick Watson
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 1:03 am    Post subject: Re: Classification for Investment Transactions Reply with quote

I hadn't thought of doing it that way because of no categorization. I
suppose that would be easier.

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I treat them as a sell, with the management fee entered as a commission.
The
net is $0. That easier and less clutter, but may not accomplish what you'd
want for tax purposes, but I don't have taxable investments.
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Chris Cowles
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 1:03 am    Post subject: Re: Classification for Investment Transactions Reply with quote

"Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko@mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in
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As to management fees, I usually treat these as a Sell (cannot be
classified) and an Expense in the cash
account that can be classified.

I treat them as a sell, with the management fee entered as a commission. The
net is $0. That easier and less clutter, but may not accomplish what you'd
want for tax purposes, but I don't have taxable investments.

My two cents.
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