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Chuck
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:02 am Post subject:
Entering rental equipment not for sale |
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I run a small sound company (think service company with rental equipment)
How would I go about accounting for the purchases of the equipment to be
rented? There will be multiple of some items. They will not be for sale just
for rent. Most equipment will have a life of 5 years or more. Even after
upgradeing the equipment the older items can still be used.
Also we have disposable items such as batteries that won't be sold but are
an expence of doing business. How are these entered? Thanks.
Chuck
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Mark H
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:03 pm Post subject:
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"Chuck" <yeah@right.com> wrote in message news:jGubf.52$GT3.11@fe02.lga...
| Quote: | I run a small sound company (think service company with rental equipment)
How would I go about accounting for the purchases of the equipment to be
rented? There will be multiple of some items. They will not be for sale
just for rent. Most equipment will have a life of 5 years or more. Even
after upgradeing the equipment the older items can still be used.
Also we have disposable items such as batteries that won't be sold but are
an expence of doing business. How are these entered? Thanks.
Chuck
Enter it as you would any other asset that is capitalized and depreciated. |
You generally need two accounts, one a fixed asset account, the other, also
a fixed asset account to record the accumulated depreciation. The way I do
it is to actually use 3 accounts where the 2 accounts just described are
sub-accounts of the main fixed asset account. This way, the top level fixed
asset account always shows the net remaining book value of the asset(s).
You chart of accounts would look something like this:
Acct Num Acct Name
1500 Fixed assets
1501 Rental Equipment
1502 Accum Depr - Rental Equip
Of course, account names can be anything you want and numbers are optional.
Accounts 1501 and 1502 are sub-accounts of 1500. The original cost of the
asset is recorded in 1501, the accumulated depreciation is recorded in 1502
(debit depreciation expense, credit account 1502) |
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Chuck
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:16 am Post subject:
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"Mark H" <gcollect1@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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"Chuck" <yeah@right.com> wrote in message news:jGubf.52$GT3.11@fe02.lga...
I run a small sound company (think service company with rental equipment)
How would I go about accounting for the purchases of the equipment to be
rented? There will be multiple of some items. They will not be for sale
just for rent. Most equipment will have a life of 5 years or more. Even
after upgradeing the equipment the older items can still be used.
Also we have disposable items such as batteries that won't be sold but
are an expence of doing business. How are these entered? Thanks.
Chuck
Enter it as you would any other asset that is capitalized and depreciated.
You generally need two accounts, one a fixed asset account, the other,
also a fixed asset account to record the accumulated depreciation. The
way I do it is to actually use 3 accounts where the 2 accounts just
described are sub-accounts of the main fixed asset account. This way, the
top level fixed asset account always shows the net remaining book value of
the asset(s). You chart of accounts would look something like this:
Acct Num Acct Name
1500 Fixed assets
1501 Rental Equipment
1502 Accum Depr - Rental Equip
Of course, account names can be anything you want and numbers are
optional. Accounts 1501 and 1502 are sub-accounts of 1500. The original
cost of the asset is recorded in 1501, the accumulated depreciation is
recorded in 1502 (debit depreciation expense, credit account 1502)
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Ok im using Quickbooks premire 2004. Trying to figure out how to do this. I
tried doing it as a fixed asset and the sub account of that. The only
problem I have is some items there will be multiple of the same type of item
and maybe even at different prices. What would be the best way to do this.
These are not for sale items. Some items range in the $10-$1000 range in
actual price. The only way i see to do it would be to enter each item as a
new item line so that things will reflect the right price. Some of these I
will have in the multiples of at least 50 or more and this seems like a
waste. Any ideas?
Thank you.
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:09 am Post subject:
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Chuck, consult a competent professional accountant, preferably (but
not necessarily) with QB experience.
"Chuck" <yeah@right.com> wrote ...
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Ok im using Quickbooks premire 2004. Trying to figure out how to do
this. I
tried doing it as a fixed asset and the sub account of that. The
only
problem I have is some items there will be multiple of the same type
of item
and maybe even at different prices. What would be the best way to do
this.
These are not for sale items. Some items range in the $10-$1000
range in
actual price. The only way i see to do it would be to enter each
item as a
new item line so that things will reflect the right price. Some of
these I
will have in the multiples of at least 50 or more and this seems
like a
waste. Any ideas?
Thank you.
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S.M.Serba
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:12 am Post subject:
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"Chuck" <yeah@right.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Acct Num Acct Name
1500 Fixed assets
1501 Rental Equipment
1502 Accum Depr - Rental Equip
Of course, account names can be anything you want and numbers are
optional. Accounts 1501 and 1502 are sub-accounts of 1500. The original
cost of the asset is recorded in 1501, the accumulated depreciation is
recorded in 1502 (debit depreciation expense, credit account 1502)
Ok im using Quickbooks premire 2004. Trying to figure out how to do this.
I tried doing it as a fixed asset and the sub account of that. The only
problem I have is some items there will be multiple of the same type of
item and maybe even at different prices. What would be the best way to do
this. These are not for sale items. Some items range in the $10-$1000
range in actual price. The only way i see to do it would be to enter each
item as a new item line so that things will reflect the right price. Some
of these I will have in the multiples of at least 50 or more and this
seems like a waste. Any ideas?
Thank you.
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Nope. Just the one G/L account for *ALL* your rental equipment. No need to
keep separate line items. I believe that you can set up a Fixed Asset in QB,
there is a dialog box/wizard that opens when you enter the first Bill for a
FA that you purchase. Enter the details, making sure that if you pay a VAT
or GST which offers an input tax credit (eg in Canada) that you BREAK OUT
the GST. You don't account for that in your Fixed Asset value.
Eg. You rent sound equipment. YOu purchased an amplifier, a mixing board and
a set of speakers, which you would normally rent together. Amp cost is
$2,500, mixer is $2,000, total cost of set of speakers $4,000. Separate
invoices for each:
DR Rental Equipment 2,500.00
CR Accounts Payable 2,500.00
DR Rental Equipment 2,000.00
CR Accounts Payable 2,000.00
DR Rental Equipment 4,000.00
CR Accounts Payable 4,000.00
If you paid by cash or cheque, then substitute Cash or Bank for Accounts
Payable.
If you don't want to play with the Fixed Assets function of QB, then make a
spreadsheet of *each individual* piece of equipment and cost (less any GST
or VAT). This will make calculating the depreciation a little easier.
Check with your accountant for what rates to journalize your depreciations
at. In Canada the CRA has specified rates at which fixed assets can be
depreciated and I find it easier to book my depreciation per tax rather than
any other method.
--
Stephanie Wells, AICIA
Partner, Durham Business Outsource
Accounting & Technology
www.dbo.ca
smwells <at> dbo <dot> ca |
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