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L Cramer
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:04 am Post subject:
Mutual Fund Failure |
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Ugh! The fix is unfixed. The daily price changes are recorded correctly in
Investment Summary and Best and Worst Performers, but not where it matters
most, the Last Price in PV and Today's Total Change, and of course, the
Market Value of one's holdings.
And, btw, since I've used M2004 has never properly recorded the changes for
one pink sheet stock I own, Canadian Oil Sands, which isn't exactly an
unknown stock.
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L Cramer
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:04 am Post subject:
Re: Mutual Fund Failure |
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I guess I needed to give M a 2d chance and maybe more time. With the
exception of COSWF, all mutual fund prices and changes have been recorded
correctly with my 2d download.
L Cramer" <lzcramer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:iyxaf.8900$7s1.5570@fe04.lga...
| Quote: | Ugh! The fix is unfixed. The daily price changes are recorded correctly
in Investment Summary and Best and Worst Performers, but not where it
matters most, the Last Price in PV and Today's Total Change, and of
course, the Market Value of one's holdings.
And, btw, since I've used M2004 has never properly recorded the changes
for one pink sheet stock I own, Canadian Oil Sands, which isn't exactly an
unknown stock.
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Cal Learner-- MVP
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:04 am Post subject:
Re: Mutual Fund Failure |
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In microsoft.public.money, L Cramer wrote:
| Quote: | I guess I needed to give M a 2d chance and maybe more time. With the
exception of COSWF, all mutual fund prices and changes have been recorded
correctly with my 2d download.
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COSWF is not a mutual fund. Actually it is a Canadian oil trust. Its
price is reported once per day.
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L Cramer" <lzcramer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:iyxaf.8900$7s1.5570@fe04.lga...
Ugh! The fix is unfixed. The daily price changes are recorded correctly
in Investment Summary and Best and Worst Performers, but not where it
matters most, the Last Price in PV and Today's Total Change, and of
course, the Market Value of one's holdings.
And, btw, since I've used M2004 has never properly recorded the changes
for one pink sheet stock I own, Canadian Oil Sands, which isn't exactly an
unknown stock.
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L'l John
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:04 am Post subject:
Re: Mutual Fund Failure |
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"L Cramer" <lzcramer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I guess I needed to give M a 2d chance and maybe more time. With the
exception of COSWF, all mutual fund prices and changes have been recorded
correctly with my 2d download.
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Yeah, all my funds updated after 7:30 pm eastern time.
John
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L Cramer" <lzcramer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:iyxaf.8900$7s1.5570@fe04.lga...
Ugh! The fix is unfixed. The daily price changes are recorded correctly
in Investment Summary and Best and Worst Performers, but not where it
matters most, the Last Price in PV and Today's Total Change, and of
course, the Market Value of one's holdings.
And, btw, since I've used M2004 has never properly recorded the changes
for one pink sheet stock I own, Canadian Oil Sands, which isn't exactly
an unknown stock.
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L Cramer
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:05 am Post subject:
Re: Mutual Fund Failure |
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Cal, I know that COSWF is not a mutual fund. My original comment identified
it as a stock. I was simply adding that it was one more investment that M
wasn't recording properly.
Thanks for your good work on this board.
"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup@please.tnx> wrote in message
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| Quote: | In microsoft.public.money, L Cramer wrote:
I guess I needed to give M a 2d chance and maybe more time. With the
exception of COSWF, all mutual fund prices and changes have been recorded
correctly with my 2d download.
COSWF is not a mutual fund. Actually it is a Canadian oil trust. Its
price is reported once per day.
L Cramer" <lzcramer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:iyxaf.8900$7s1.5570@fe04.lga...
Ugh! The fix is unfixed. The daily price changes are recorded
correctly
in Investment Summary and Best and Worst Performers, but not where it
matters most, the Last Price in PV and Today's Total Change, and of
course, the Market Value of one's holdings.
And, btw, since I've used M2004 has never properly recorded the changes
for one pink sheet stock I own, Canadian Oil Sands, which isn't exactly
an
unknown stock.
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Myrna Larson
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:17 am Post subject:
Re: Mutual Fund Failure |
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My experience, too. Unfortunately, if you downloaded in the 1-1.5 hours before
that all of your Nov 2 prices got overwritten with the mis-identified Nov 3
prices.
I reported this via chat on the MS support web site. They say they are still
"working on it" but don't have any info re when they will succeed. What a
bummer!
What I saw tonight in fact happened to me several times in October before
10/21.
On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 19:55:29 -0500, "L'l John" <je_norrisstopspam@hotmail.com>
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"L Cramer" <lzcramer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:G%xaf.8934$7s1.4569@fe04.lga...
I guess I needed to give M a 2d chance and maybe more time. With the
exception of COSWF, all mutual fund prices and changes have been recorded
correctly with my 2d download.
Yeah, all my funds updated after 7:30 pm eastern time.
John
L Cramer" <lzcramer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:iyxaf.8900$7s1.5570@fe04.lga...
Ugh! The fix is unfixed. The daily price changes are recorded correctly
in Investment Summary and Best and Worst Performers, but not where it
matters most, the Last Price in PV and Today's Total Change, and of
course, the Market Value of one's holdings.
And, btw, since I've used M2004 has never properly recorded the changes
for one pink sheet stock I own, Canadian Oil Sands, which isn't exactly
an unknown stock.
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Myrna Larson
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:18 am Post subject:
Re: Mutual Fund Failure |
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Did you check your old prices? Unfortunately, the valid 11/2 prices were most
likely overwritten by the misdated 11/3 prices.
On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 16:33:33 -0800, "L Cramer" <lzcramer@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I guess I needed to give M a 2d chance and maybe more time. With the
exception of COSWF, all mutual fund prices and changes have been recorded
correctly with my 2d download.
L Cramer" <lzcramer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:iyxaf.8900$7s1.5570@fe04.lga...
Ugh! The fix is unfixed. The daily price changes are recorded correctly
in Investment Summary and Best and Worst Performers, but not where it
matters most, the Last Price in PV and Today's Total Change, and of
course, the Market Value of one's holdings.
And, btw, since I've used M2004 has never properly recorded the changes
for one pink sheet stock I own, Canadian Oil Sands, which isn't exactly an
unknown stock.
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Cal Learner-- MVP
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:39 am Post subject:
Re: Mutual Fund Failure |
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In microsoft.public.money, L Cramer wrote:
| Quote: | Cal, I know that COSWF is not a mutual fund. My original comment identified
it as a stock. I was simply adding that it was one more investment that M
wasn't recording properly.
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My mistake. Tunnel vision.
COSWF shows a nice Total Change for me today in Money 2006.
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Thanks for your good work on this board.
"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup@please.tnx> wrote in message
news:u8blm11mmt39jrvk5c0sm722prqov4t09d@4ax.com...
In microsoft.public.money, L Cramer wrote:
I guess I needed to give M a 2d chance and maybe more time. With the
exception of COSWF, all mutual fund prices and changes have been recorded
correctly with my 2d download.
COSWF is not a mutual fund. Actually it is a Canadian oil trust. Its
price is reported once per day.
L Cramer" <lzcramer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:iyxaf.8900$7s1.5570@fe04.lga...
Ugh! The fix is unfixed. The daily price changes are recorded
correctly
in Investment Summary and Best and Worst Performers, but not where it
matters most, the Last Price in PV and Today's Total Change, and of
course, the Market Value of one's holdings.
And, btw, since I've used M2004 has never properly recorded the changes
for one pink sheet stock I own, Canadian Oil Sands, which isn't exactly
an
unknown stock.
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L Cramer
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:46 am Post subject:
Re: Mutual Fund Failure |
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| Quote: | COSWF shows a nice Total Change for me today in Money 2006.
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Very interesting. So, the problem is unique to M2004. It's a minor issue,
but have you any suggestions on how to solve the problem? Thanks.
"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup@please.tnx> wrote in message
news:2selm15k8c2soin857nh4e8f5egrcjn1bs@4ax.com...
| Quote: | In microsoft.public.money, L Cramer wrote:
Cal, I know that COSWF is not a mutual fund. My original comment
identified
it as a stock. I was simply adding that it was one more investment that M
wasn't recording properly.
My mistake. Tunnel vision.
COSWF shows a nice Total Change for me today in Money 2006.
Thanks for your good work on this board.
"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup@please.tnx> wrote in message
news:u8blm11mmt39jrvk5c0sm722prqov4t09d@4ax.com...
In microsoft.public.money, L Cramer wrote:
I guess I needed to give M a 2d chance and maybe more time. With the
exception of COSWF, all mutual fund prices and changes have been
recorded
correctly with my 2d download.
COSWF is not a mutual fund. Actually it is a Canadian oil trust. Its
price is reported once per day.
L Cramer" <lzcramer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:iyxaf.8900$7s1.5570@fe04.lga...
Ugh! The fix is unfixed. The daily price changes are recorded
correctly
in Investment Summary and Best and Worst Performers, but not where it
matters most, the Last Price in PV and Today's Total Change, and of
course, the Market Value of one's holdings.
And, btw, since I've used M2004 has never properly recorded the
changes
for one pink sheet stock I own, Canadian Oil Sands, which isn't
exactly
an
unknown stock.
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Cal Learner-- MVP
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:03 am Post subject:
Re: Mutual Fund Failure |
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In microsoft.public.money, L Cramer wrote:
| Quote: | COSWF shows a nice Total Change for me today in Money 2006.
Very interesting. So, the problem is unique to M2004. It's a minor issue,
but have you any suggestions on how to solve the problem? Thanks.
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I also just checked in Money 2004, and I also get a nice number for
COSWF Change and Today columns.
Try grouping by account and see if things change. You might make a
copy of your file to experiment. Try to make sure the transactions
are only Buy, Sell, and Dividend perhaps.
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"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup@please.tnx> wrote in message
news:2selm15k8c2soin857nh4e8f5egrcjn1bs@4ax.com...
In microsoft.public.money, L Cramer wrote:
Cal, I know that COSWF is not a mutual fund. My original comment
identified
it as a stock. I was simply adding that it was one more investment that M
wasn't recording properly.
My mistake. Tunnel vision.
COSWF shows a nice Total Change for me today in Money 2006.
Thanks for your good work on this board.
"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup@please.tnx> wrote in message
news:u8blm11mmt39jrvk5c0sm722prqov4t09d@4ax.com...
In microsoft.public.money, L Cramer wrote:
I guess I needed to give M a 2d chance and maybe more time. With the
exception of COSWF, all mutual fund prices and changes have been
recorded
correctly with my 2d download.
COSWF is not a mutual fund. Actually it is a Canadian oil trust. Its
price is reported once per day.
L Cramer" <lzcramer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:iyxaf.8900$7s1.5570@fe04.lga...
Ugh! The fix is unfixed. The daily price changes are recorded
correctly
in Investment Summary and Best and Worst Performers, but not where it
matters most, the Last Price in PV and Today's Total Change, and of
course, the Market Value of one's holdings.
And, btw, since I've used M2004 has never properly recorded the
changes
for one pink sheet stock I own, Canadian Oil Sands, which isn't
exactly
an
unknown stock.
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Cal Learner-- MVP
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:03 am Post subject:
Re: Mutual Fund Failure |
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In microsoft.public.money, Cal Learner-- MVP wrote:
| Quote: | In microsoft.public.money, L Cramer wrote:
COSWF shows a nice Total Change for me today in Money 2006.
Very interesting. So, the problem is unique to M2004. It's a minor issue,
but have you any suggestions on how to solve the problem? Thanks.
I also just checked in Money 2004, and I also get a nice number for
COSWF Change and Today columns.
Try grouping by account and see if things change. You might make a
copy of your file to experiment. Try to make sure the transactions
are only Buy, Sell, and Dividend perhaps.
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I later went back to Money 2006. The % Change and TotChng columns
for COSWF were blank. It was after midnight EST.
And again I went to Money 2004. The Today column for COSWF still had
the number.
In each case I reloaded prices. |
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L Cramer
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:04 am Post subject:
Re: Mutual Fund Failure |
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Thanks for your assistance. Today, under Best & Worst Performers, COSWF
shows a price decline of $2.209, but that change is not picked up anywhere
else. The Last Price in PV is yesterday's and the change for today is zero.
My PV is grouped by accounts, with COSWF in 2 of them.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean here: "Try to make sure the
transactions are only Buy, Sell, and Dividend perhaps." With the exception
of foreign taxes collected each dividend, all transactions are what you
suggest.
So, M2004 recognizes COSWF in one area only and nowhere else. I'm stumped.
I did not have this problem in M2003. (I only recently upgraded to M2004).
If you have any other ideas, I'll appreciate them. Thanks.
"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup@please.tnx> wrote in message
news:3umlm1p4dfk046o601u71gl5d8nl3nhegp@4ax.com...
| Quote: | In microsoft.public.money, L Cramer wrote:
COSWF shows a nice Total Change for me today in Money 2006.
Very interesting. So, the problem is unique to M2004. It's a minor
issue,
but have you any suggestions on how to solve the problem? Thanks.
I also just checked in Money 2004, and I also get a nice number for
COSWF Change and Today columns.
Try grouping by account and see if things change. You might make a
copy of your file to experiment. Try to make sure the transactions
are only Buy, Sell, and Dividend perhaps.
"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup@please.tnx> wrote in message
news:2selm15k8c2soin857nh4e8f5egrcjn1bs@4ax.com...
In microsoft.public.money, L Cramer wrote:
Cal, I know that COSWF is not a mutual fund. My original comment
identified
it as a stock. I was simply adding that it was one more investment that
M
wasn't recording properly.
My mistake. Tunnel vision.
COSWF shows a nice Total Change for me today in Money 2006.
Thanks for your good work on this board.
"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup@please.tnx> wrote in message
news:u8blm11mmt39jrvk5c0sm722prqov4t09d@4ax.com...
In microsoft.public.money, L Cramer wrote:
I guess I needed to give M a 2d chance and maybe more time. With the
exception of COSWF, all mutual fund prices and changes have been
recorded
correctly with my 2d download.
COSWF is not a mutual fund. Actually it is a Canadian oil trust. Its
price is reported once per day.
L Cramer" <lzcramer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:iyxaf.8900$7s1.5570@fe04.lga...
Ugh! The fix is unfixed. The daily price changes are recorded
correctly
in Investment Summary and Best and Worst Performers, but not where
it
matters most, the Last Price in PV and Today's Total Change, and of
course, the Market Value of one's holdings.
And, btw, since I've used M2004 has never properly recorded the
changes
for one pink sheet stock I own, Canadian Oil Sands, which isn't
exactly
an
unknown stock.
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Cal Learner-- MVP
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:04 am Post subject:
Re: Mutual Fund Failure |
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In microsoft.public.money, L Cramer wrote:
| Quote: | Thanks for your assistance. Today, under Best & Worst Performers, COSWF
shows a price decline of $2.209, but that change is not picked up anywhere
else. The Last Price in PV is yesterday's and the change for today is zero.
My PV is grouped by accounts, with COSWF in 2 of them.
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In the Portfolio Last Price column, it does not show
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I'm not sure I understand what you mean here: "Try to make sure the
transactions are only Buy, Sell, and Dividend perhaps." With the exception
of foreign taxes collected each dividend, all transactions are what you
suggest.
So, M2004 recognizes COSWF in one area only and nowhere else. I'm stumped.
I did not have this problem in M2003. (I only recently upgraded to M2004).
If you have any other ideas, I'll appreciate them. Thanks.
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Try updating prices now, and before midnight EST. |
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L Cramer
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:04 am Post subject:
Re: Mutual Fund Failure |
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Hmm, maybe I shouldn't be trying to download so soon after 6 pm eastern. I
downloaded again and this time the price change and today's total change
recorded correctly for COSWF, although the Last Price was still yesterday's.
Tomorrow I'll wait until 7 pm.
I've just assumed that pink sheet stock prices were availabe at the same
time as mutal funds. Maybe not. Thanks again.
"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup@please.tnx> wrote in message
news:3umlm1p4dfk046o601u71gl5d8nl3nhegp@4ax.com...
| Quote: | In microsoft.public.money, L Cramer wrote:
COSWF shows a nice Total Change for me today in Money 2006.
Very interesting. So, the problem is unique to M2004. It's a minor
issue,
but have you any suggestions on how to solve the problem? Thanks.
I also just checked in Money 2004, and I also get a nice number for
COSWF Change and Today columns.
Try grouping by account and see if things change. You might make a
copy of your file to experiment. Try to make sure the transactions
are only Buy, Sell, and Dividend perhaps.
"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup@please.tnx> wrote in message
news:2selm15k8c2soin857nh4e8f5egrcjn1bs@4ax.com...
In microsoft.public.money, L Cramer wrote:
Cal, I know that COSWF is not a mutual fund. My original comment
identified
it as a stock. I was simply adding that it was one more investment that
M
wasn't recording properly.
My mistake. Tunnel vision.
COSWF shows a nice Total Change for me today in Money 2006.
Thanks for your good work on this board.
"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup@please.tnx> wrote in message
news:u8blm11mmt39jrvk5c0sm722prqov4t09d@4ax.com...
In microsoft.public.money, L Cramer wrote:
I guess I needed to give M a 2d chance and maybe more time. With the
exception of COSWF, all mutual fund prices and changes have been
recorded
correctly with my 2d download.
COSWF is not a mutual fund. Actually it is a Canadian oil trust. Its
price is reported once per day.
L Cramer" <lzcramer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:iyxaf.8900$7s1.5570@fe04.lga...
Ugh! The fix is unfixed. The daily price changes are recorded
correctly
in Investment Summary and Best and Worst Performers, but not where
it
matters most, the Last Price in PV and Today's Total Change, and of
course, the Market Value of one's holdings.
And, btw, since I've used M2004 has never properly recorded the
changes
for one pink sheet stock I own, Canadian Oil Sands, which isn't
exactly
an
unknown stock.
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Sth
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:01 pm Post subject:
Re: Mutual Fund Failure |
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I have not been following this entire thread, so sorry if this was already
discussed. According to my fund all mutual fund prices are updated
everyday only at 7 PM EST. So if you try to update prices before then you
will get only the previous day's prices.
"L Cramer" <lzcramer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Hmm, maybe I shouldn't be trying to download so soon after 6 pm eastern.
I
downloaded again and this time the price change and today's total change
recorded correctly for COSWF, although the Last Price was still
yesterday's.
Tomorrow I'll wait until 7 pm.
I've just assumed that pink sheet stock prices were availabe at the same
time as mutal funds. Maybe not. Thanks again.
"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup@please.tnx> wrote in message
news:3umlm1p4dfk046o601u71gl5d8nl3nhegp@4ax.com...
In microsoft.public.money, L Cramer wrote:
COSWF shows a nice Total Change for me today in Money 2006.
Very interesting. So, the problem is unique to M2004. It's a minor
issue,
but have you any suggestions on how to solve the problem? Thanks.
I also just checked in Money 2004, and I also get a nice number for
COSWF Change and Today columns.
Try grouping by account and see if things change. You might make a
copy of your file to experiment. Try to make sure the transactions
are only Buy, Sell, and Dividend perhaps.
"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup@please.tnx> wrote in message
news:2selm15k8c2soin857nh4e8f5egrcjn1bs@4ax.com...
In microsoft.public.money, L Cramer wrote:
Cal, I know that COSWF is not a mutual fund. My original comment
identified
it as a stock. I was simply adding that it was one more investment
that
M
wasn't recording properly.
My mistake. Tunnel vision.
COSWF shows a nice Total Change for me today in Money 2006.
Thanks for your good work on this board.
"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup@please.tnx> wrote in message
news:u8blm11mmt39jrvk5c0sm722prqov4t09d@4ax.com...
In microsoft.public.money, L Cramer wrote:
I guess I needed to give M a 2d chance and maybe more time. With
the
exception of COSWF, all mutual fund prices and changes have been
recorded
correctly with my 2d download.
COSWF is not a mutual fund. Actually it is a Canadian oil trust. Its
price is reported once per day.
L Cramer" <lzcramer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:iyxaf.8900$7s1.5570@fe04.lga...
Ugh! The fix is unfixed. The daily price changes are recorded
correctly
in Investment Summary and Best and Worst Performers, but not where
it
matters most, the Last Price in PV and Today's Total Change, and
of
course, the Market Value of one's holdings.
And, btw, since I've used M2004 has never properly recorded the
changes
for one pink sheet stock I own, Canadian Oil Sands, which isn't
exactly
an
unknown stock.
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