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Myrna Larson
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:03 am Post subject:
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That's not been the problem here. At 6 PM eastern, I see today's price, but it
has yesterday's date, so the correct yesterday price is overwritten.
When you say the price isn't updated for another hour, are you sure? Have you
checked what you see in Money against the price on the mutual fund's site, or
in MSN money (not MSN portfolio manager)?
On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:45:32 -0800, "Sth" <usan001@adelphia.net> wrote:
| Quote: | I have not been following this entire thread, so sorry if this was already
discussed. According to my fund all mutual fund prices are updated
everyday only at 7 PM EST. So if you try to update prices before then you
will get only the previous day's prices.
"L Cramer" <lzcramer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:afSaf.56860$RG4.6126@fe05.lga...
Hmm, maybe I shouldn't be trying to download so soon after 6 pm eastern.
I
downloaded again and this time the price change and today's total change
recorded correctly for COSWF, although the Last Price was still
yesterday's.
Tomorrow I'll wait until 7 pm.
I've just assumed that pink sheet stock prices were availabe at the same
time as mutal funds. Maybe not. Thanks again.
"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup@please.tnx> wrote in message
news:3umlm1p4dfk046o601u71gl5d8nl3nhegp@4ax.com...
In microsoft.public.money, L Cramer wrote:
COSWF shows a nice Total Change for me today in Money 2006.
Very interesting. So, the problem is unique to M2004. It's a minor
issue,
but have you any suggestions on how to solve the problem? Thanks.
I also just checked in Money 2004, and I also get a nice number for
COSWF Change and Today columns.
Try grouping by account and see if things change. You might make a
copy of your file to experiment. Try to make sure the transactions
are only Buy, Sell, and Dividend perhaps.
"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup@please.tnx> wrote in message
news:2selm15k8c2soin857nh4e8f5egrcjn1bs@4ax.com...
In microsoft.public.money, L Cramer wrote:
Cal, I know that COSWF is not a mutual fund. My original comment
identified
it as a stock. I was simply adding that it was one more investment
that
M
wasn't recording properly.
My mistake. Tunnel vision.
COSWF shows a nice Total Change for me today in Money 2006.
Thanks for your good work on this board.
"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup@please.tnx> wrote in message
news:u8blm11mmt39jrvk5c0sm722prqov4t09d@4ax.com...
In microsoft.public.money, L Cramer wrote:
I guess I needed to give M a 2d chance and maybe more time. With
the
exception of COSWF, all mutual fund prices and changes have been
recorded
correctly with my 2d download.
COSWF is not a mutual fund. Actually it is a Canadian oil trust. Its
price is reported once per day.
L Cramer" <lzcramer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:iyxaf.8900$7s1.5570@fe04.lga...
Ugh! The fix is unfixed. The daily price changes are recorded
correctly
in Investment Summary and Best and Worst Performers, but not where
it
matters most, the Last Price in PV and Today's Total Change, and
of
course, the Market Value of one's holdings.
And, btw, since I've used M2004 has never properly recorded the
changes
for one pink sheet stock I own, Canadian Oil Sands, which isn't
exactly
an
unknown stock.
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Sth
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:03 pm Post subject:
Re: Mutual Fund Failure |
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Since MF data has to be datermined and updated from different sources there
may be some convention in the MF industry that the price data will be
confirmed everyday only at 7 PM EST. That may explain the problems being
reported. Has anybody who updated the MF prices after 7 PM EST encountered
this problem?
"Myrna Larson" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:hvrtm19octldf7ai9iijnnj9p1ncg48i20@4ax.com...
| Quote: | That's not been the problem here. At 6 PM eastern, I see today's price,
but it
has yesterday's date, so the correct yesterday price is overwritten.
When you say the price isn't updated for another hour, are you sure? Have
you
checked what you see in Money against the price on the mutual fund's site,
or
in MSN money (not MSN portfolio manager)?
On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:45:32 -0800, "Sth" <usan001@adelphia.net> wrote:
I have not been following this entire thread, so sorry if this was
already
discussed. According to my fund all mutual fund prices are updated
everyday only at 7 PM EST. So if you try to update prices before then you
will get only the previous day's prices.
"L Cramer" <lzcramer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:afSaf.56860$RG4.6126@fe05.lga...
Hmm, maybe I shouldn't be trying to download so soon after 6 pm
eastern.
I
downloaded again and this time the price change and today's total
change
recorded correctly for COSWF, although the Last Price was still
yesterday's.
Tomorrow I'll wait until 7 pm.
I've just assumed that pink sheet stock prices were availabe at the
same
time as mutal funds. Maybe not. Thanks again.
"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup@please.tnx> wrote in message
news:3umlm1p4dfk046o601u71gl5d8nl3nhegp@4ax.com...
In microsoft.public.money, L Cramer wrote:
COSWF shows a nice Total Change for me today in Money 2006.
Very interesting. So, the problem is unique to M2004. It's a minor
issue,
but have you any suggestions on how to solve the problem? Thanks.
I also just checked in Money 2004, and I also get a nice number for
COSWF Change and Today columns.
Try grouping by account and see if things change. You might make a
copy of your file to experiment. Try to make sure the transactions
are only Buy, Sell, and Dividend perhaps.
"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup@please.tnx> wrote in message
news:2selm15k8c2soin857nh4e8f5egrcjn1bs@4ax.com...
In microsoft.public.money, L Cramer wrote:
Cal, I know that COSWF is not a mutual fund. My original comment
identified
it as a stock. I was simply adding that it was one more investment
that
M
wasn't recording properly.
My mistake. Tunnel vision.
COSWF shows a nice Total Change for me today in Money 2006.
Thanks for your good work on this board.
"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup@please.tnx> wrote in message
news:u8blm11mmt39jrvk5c0sm722prqov4t09d@4ax.com...
In microsoft.public.money, L Cramer wrote:
I guess I needed to give M a 2d chance and maybe more time. With
the
exception of COSWF, all mutual fund prices and changes have been
recorded
correctly with my 2d download.
COSWF is not a mutual fund. Actually it is a Canadian oil trust.
Its
price is reported once per day.
L Cramer" <lzcramer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:iyxaf.8900$7s1.5570@fe04.lga...
Ugh! The fix is unfixed. The daily price changes are recorded
correctly
in Investment Summary and Best and Worst Performers, but not
where
it
matters most, the Last Price in PV and Today's Total Change,
and
of
course, the Market Value of one's holdings.
And, btw, since I've used M2004 has never properly recorded the
changes
for one pink sheet stock I own, Canadian Oil Sands, which isn't
exactly
an
unknown stock.
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Myrna Larson
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:03 am Post subject:
Re: Mutual Fund Failure |
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Certainly! On Fri, October 21, when I first reported this "issue" to MS, my
prices on Vanguard and American funds were dated 10/20. The date on the
Vanguard funds didn't correct until Saturday AM, 10/22. The American Funds
didn't correct until Monday, 10/24.
On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 06:02:43 -0800, "Sth" <usan001@adelphia.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Since MF data has to be datermined and updated from different sources there
may be some convention in the MF industry that the price data will be
confirmed everyday only at 7 PM EST. That may explain the problems being
reported. Has anybody who updated the MF prices after 7 PM EST encountered
this problem?
"Myrna Larson" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:hvrtm19octldf7ai9iijnnj9p1ncg48i20@4ax.com...
That's not been the problem here. At 6 PM eastern, I see today's price,
but it
has yesterday's date, so the correct yesterday price is overwritten.
When you say the price isn't updated for another hour, are you sure? Have
you
checked what you see in Money against the price on the mutual fund's site,
or
in MSN money (not MSN portfolio manager)?
On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:45:32 -0800, "Sth" <usan001@adelphia.net> wrote:
I have not been following this entire thread, so sorry if this was
already
discussed. According to my fund all mutual fund prices are updated
everyday only at 7 PM EST. So if you try to update prices before then you
will get only the previous day's prices.
"L Cramer" <lzcramer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:afSaf.56860$RG4.6126@fe05.lga...
Hmm, maybe I shouldn't be trying to download so soon after 6 pm
eastern.
I
downloaded again and this time the price change and today's total
change
recorded correctly for COSWF, although the Last Price was still
yesterday's.
Tomorrow I'll wait until 7 pm.
I've just assumed that pink sheet stock prices were availabe at the
same
time as mutal funds. Maybe not. Thanks again.
"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup@please.tnx> wrote in message
news:3umlm1p4dfk046o601u71gl5d8nl3nhegp@4ax.com...
In microsoft.public.money, L Cramer wrote:
COSWF shows a nice Total Change for me today in Money 2006.
Very interesting. So, the problem is unique to M2004. It's a minor
issue,
but have you any suggestions on how to solve the problem? Thanks.
I also just checked in Money 2004, and I also get a nice number for
COSWF Change and Today columns.
Try grouping by account and see if things change. You might make a
copy of your file to experiment. Try to make sure the transactions
are only Buy, Sell, and Dividend perhaps.
"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup@please.tnx> wrote in message
news:2selm15k8c2soin857nh4e8f5egrcjn1bs@4ax.com...
In microsoft.public.money, L Cramer wrote:
Cal, I know that COSWF is not a mutual fund. My original comment
identified
it as a stock. I was simply adding that it was one more investment
that
M
wasn't recording properly.
My mistake. Tunnel vision.
COSWF shows a nice Total Change for me today in Money 2006.
Thanks for your good work on this board.
"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup@please.tnx> wrote in message
news:u8blm11mmt39jrvk5c0sm722prqov4t09d@4ax.com...
In microsoft.public.money, L Cramer wrote:
I guess I needed to give M a 2d chance and maybe more time. With
the
exception of COSWF, all mutual fund prices and changes have been
recorded
correctly with my 2d download.
COSWF is not a mutual fund. Actually it is a Canadian oil trust.
Its
price is reported once per day.
L Cramer" <lzcramer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:iyxaf.8900$7s1.5570@fe04.lga...
Ugh! The fix is unfixed. The daily price changes are recorded
correctly
in Investment Summary and Best and Worst Performers, but not
where
it
matters most, the Last Price in PV and Today's Total Change,
and
of
course, the Market Value of one's holdings.
And, btw, since I've used M2004 has never properly recorded the
changes
for one pink sheet stock I own, Canadian Oil Sands, which isn't
exactly
an
unknown stock.
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Myrna Larson
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:03 am Post subject:
Re: Mutual Fund Failure |
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As a matter of fact, at 6:10 PM EST today, 11/7, the problem reappeared. By
6:30 PM the dates on the American Funds was corrected. Now, at about 6:48, for
the Vanguard Funds, the bond fund prices have the correct date; the stock fund
prices do not. Note, again, that the prices are in fact all from 11/7, even
though MSN Money shows them as being from 11/4.
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 17:44:21 -0600, Myrna Larson
<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Certainly! On Fri, October 21, when I first reported this "issue" to MS, my
prices on Vanguard and American funds were dated 10/20. The date on the
Vanguard funds didn't correct until Saturday AM, 10/22. The American Funds
didn't correct until Monday, 10/24.
On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 06:02:43 -0800, "Sth" <usan001@adelphia.net> wrote:
Since MF data has to be datermined and updated from different sources there
may be some convention in the MF industry that the price data will be
confirmed everyday only at 7 PM EST. That may explain the problems being
reported. Has anybody who updated the MF prices after 7 PM EST encountered
this problem?
"Myrna Larson" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:hvrtm19octldf7ai9iijnnj9p1ncg48i20@4ax.com...
That's not been the problem here. At 6 PM eastern, I see today's price,
but it
has yesterday's date, so the correct yesterday price is overwritten.
When you say the price isn't updated for another hour, are you sure? Have
you
checked what you see in Money against the price on the mutual fund's site,
or
in MSN money (not MSN portfolio manager)?
On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:45:32 -0800, "Sth" <usan001@adelphia.net> wrote:
I have not been following this entire thread, so sorry if this was
already
discussed. According to my fund all mutual fund prices are updated
everyday only at 7 PM EST. So if you try to update prices before then you
will get only the previous day's prices.
"L Cramer" <lzcramer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:afSaf.56860$RG4.6126@fe05.lga...
Hmm, maybe I shouldn't be trying to download so soon after 6 pm
eastern.
I
downloaded again and this time the price change and today's total
change
recorded correctly for COSWF, although the Last Price was still
yesterday's.
Tomorrow I'll wait until 7 pm.
I've just assumed that pink sheet stock prices were availabe at the
same
time as mutal funds. Maybe not. Thanks again.
"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup@please.tnx> wrote in message
news:3umlm1p4dfk046o601u71gl5d8nl3nhegp@4ax.com...
In microsoft.public.money, L Cramer wrote:
COSWF shows a nice Total Change for me today in Money 2006.
Very interesting. So, the problem is unique to M2004. It's a minor
issue,
but have you any suggestions on how to solve the problem? Thanks.
I also just checked in Money 2004, and I also get a nice number for
COSWF Change and Today columns.
Try grouping by account and see if things change. You might make a
copy of your file to experiment. Try to make sure the transactions
are only Buy, Sell, and Dividend perhaps.
"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup@please.tnx> wrote in message
news:2selm15k8c2soin857nh4e8f5egrcjn1bs@4ax.com...
In microsoft.public.money, L Cramer wrote:
Cal, I know that COSWF is not a mutual fund. My original comment
identified
it as a stock. I was simply adding that it was one more investment
that
M
wasn't recording properly.
My mistake. Tunnel vision.
COSWF shows a nice Total Change for me today in Money 2006.
Thanks for your good work on this board.
"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup@please.tnx> wrote in message
news:u8blm11mmt39jrvk5c0sm722prqov4t09d@4ax.com...
In microsoft.public.money, L Cramer wrote:
I guess I needed to give M a 2d chance and maybe more time. With
the
exception of COSWF, all mutual fund prices and changes have been
recorded
correctly with my 2d download.
COSWF is not a mutual fund. Actually it is a Canadian oil trust.
Its
price is reported once per day.
L Cramer" <lzcramer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:iyxaf.8900$7s1.5570@fe04.lga...
Ugh! The fix is unfixed. The daily price changes are recorded
correctly
in Investment Summary and Best and Worst Performers, but not
where
it
matters most, the Last Price in PV and Today's Total Change,
and
of
course, the Market Value of one's holdings.
And, btw, since I've used M2004 has never properly recorded the
changes
for one pink sheet stock I own, Canadian Oil Sands, which isn't
exactly
an
unknown stock.
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