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Steve
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 3:52 pm    Post subject: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET Reply with quote

You heard it here and here's the proof.

http://members.aol.com/DTyleer/DOW1.JPG
http://members.aol.com/DTyleer/DOW1.JPG

Check out these two links to two of my DOW JONES forecast snapshots.
(Copy n paste these into your browser address box).

There's no speculation. We are headed south. Bears will kick serious
bull rear starting very soon. DOW JONES in 2006 will be seriously lower
... and it gets much worse, the next long term bottom will be in the
2010 area if my charts are right. I use arcs and trend lines. I don't
even need trendlines as arcs alone are plenty enough. All you longterm
investors, be short. be wise be safe and best of all be wealthy. If you
don't short, then dump your stocks now. Last warning. Serious long term
bear rallies are in the making. The next leg down will be drastic and
steep believe it. You heard it here. Steve.

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David Wilkinson
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 5:01 pm    Post subject: Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET Reply with quote

Steve wrote:
Quote:
You heard it here and here's the proof.

http://members.aol.com/DTyleer/DOW1.JPG
http://members.aol.com/DTyleer/DOW1.JPG

Check out these two links to two of my DOW JONES forecast snapshots.
(Copy n paste these into your browser address box).

There's no speculation. We are headed south. Bears will kick serious
bull rear starting very soon. DOW JONES in 2006 will be seriously lower
.. and it gets much worse, the next long term bottom will be in the
2010 area if my charts are right. I use arcs and trend lines. I don't
even need trendlines as arcs alone are plenty enough. All you longterm
investors, be short. be wise be safe and best of all be wealthy. If you
don't short, then dump your stocks now. Last warning. Serious long term
bear rallies are in the making. The next leg down will be drastic and
steep believe it. You heard it here. Steve.

Steve who? And what are your credentials to advise others? Zilch I would

think if this is an example. Your crude drawing of a bow seems to have
no relation at all to the price history that precedes it. There are
dozens of TA indicators, trendlines, MAs etc. that could be attached to
the price history over different periods indicating any of buy, sell and
hold. Why use yours?

For instance you could use TA to say the Dow has been in a trading range
from about 10,000 to 10,800 since the beginning of 2004. It shows very
little sign of breaking out of this, either up or down. If it did then
TA lore would say it would move about the width of the range, about 800
points, either up to 11,600 or down to 9,200. Of course, a typical TA
prediction like this one that the price will either go up, down or stay
the same, is not a lot of use, but it is not positively harmful like
your suggestion to sell everything and go short, which could seriously
damage an investor's wealth if they were daft enough to follow it.

You will have to do a lot better than this!
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Mike Stone
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 5:01 pm    Post subject: Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET Reply with quote

His e-mail address is 'PhilHendrie@aol.com'. Phil Hendrie is a
radio show where the host (Phil Hendrie) pretends to be a caller
and argues with himself in 2 different voices.

So whoever, the OP really is, he isn't being serious :)

That chart makes no sense!

-Mike

David Wilkinson <david@wilkinson6337.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
Quote:
Steve wrote:
You heard it here and here's the proof.

http://members.aol.com/DTyleer/DOW1.JPG
http://members.aol.com/DTyleer/DOW1.JPG

Check out these two links to two of my DOW JONES forecast snapshots.
(Copy n paste these into your browser address box).

There's no speculation. We are headed south. Bears will kick serious
bull rear starting very soon. DOW JONES in 2006 will be seriously lower
.. and it gets much worse, the next long term bottom will be in the
2010 area if my charts are right. I use arcs and trend lines. I don't
even need trendlines as arcs alone are plenty enough. All you longterm
investors, be short. be wise be safe and best of all be wealthy. If you
don't short, then dump your stocks now. Last warning. Serious long term
bear rallies are in the making. The next leg down will be drastic and
steep believe it. You heard it here. Steve.

Steve who? And what are your credentials to advise others? Zilch I would
think if this is an example. Your crude drawing of a bow seems to have
no relation at all to the price history that precedes it. There are
dozens of TA indicators, trendlines, MAs etc. that could be attached to
the price history over different periods indicating any of buy, sell and
hold. Why use yours?

For instance you could use TA to say the Dow has been in a trading range
from about 10,000 to 10,800 since the beginning of 2004. It shows very
little sign of breaking out of this, either up or down. If it did then
TA lore would say it would move about the width of the range, about 800
points, either up to 11,600 or down to 9,200. Of course, a typical TA
prediction like this one that the price will either go up, down or stay
the same, is not a lot of use, but it is not positively harmful like
your suggestion to sell everything and go short, which could seriously
damage an investor's wealth if they were daft enough to follow it.

You will have to do a lot better than this!


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PeterL
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 11:26 pm    Post subject: Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET Reply with quote

Steve wrote:
Quote:
You heard it here and here's the proof.

http://members.aol.com/DTyleer/DOW1.JPG
http://members.aol.com/DTyleer/DOW1.JPG

Check out these two links to two of my DOW JONES forecast snapshots.
(Copy n paste these into your browser address box).

There's no speculation. We are headed south.

Your subject line says "in a serious bear market". Now you say "headed
south". So which is it? In one or headed towards one?

Bears will kick serious
Quote:
bull rear starting very soon. DOW JONES in 2006 will be seriously lower
.. and it gets much worse, the next long term bottom will be in the
2010 area if my charts are right.

If? What if you are wrong? You don't have much confidence in your
charts do you?


I use arcs and trend lines. I don't
Quote:
even need trendlines as arcs alone are plenty enough. All you longterm
investors, be short. be wise be safe and best of all be wealthy. If you
don't short, then dump your stocks now. Last warning. Serious long term
bear rallies are in the making. The next leg down will be drastic and
steep believe it. You heard it here. Steve.
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Steve
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:01 am    Post subject: Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET Reply with quote

Bwahaha! Talk to me in 2006 and in 2010 if you are still here.

Steve who? Steve Me, Myself I. (I don't worship or follow others).

I use arcs for years with great success both in and out of stock
market.
I don't use conventional TA such as MAs. None work. I've made my own,
which are a lot better, but don't use them because arcs kick royal
butt.

"Heading South" and "Bearish" mean the same thing
... kinda reflects how knowledgably trade savvy the response has been so
far lol.
... no, I'm not phil, but thanks for the compliment. I trade.
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PeterL
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:01 am    Post subject: Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET Reply with quote

Steve wrote:
Quote:
Bwahaha! Talk to me in 2006 and in 2010 if you are still here.

Steve who? Steve Me, Myself I. (I don't worship or follow others).

I use arcs for years with great success both in and out of stock
market.
I don't use conventional TA such as MAs. None work. I've made my own,
which are a lot better, but don't use them because arcs kick royal
butt.

"Heading South" and "Bearish" mean the same thing

But not the same as "In a serious bear market." Heading towards one
and in one are two different things. Besides no one can tell what
market we are in until it's over.

Quote:
.. kinda reflects how knowledgably trade savvy the response has been so
far lol.

LOL indeed.

> .. no, I'm not phil, but thanks for the compliment. I trade.
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Steve
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:01 am    Post subject: Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET Reply with quote

Quote:
Besides no one can tell what market we are in until it's over.

Some can .. speaking only for myself tho lol.
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Steve
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:01 am    Post subject: Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET Reply with quote

You heard it here and here's the proof.


http://members.aol.com/DTyleer/DOW1.JPG
http://members.aol.com/DTyleer/DOW2.JPG


Check out these two links to two of my DOW JONES forecast snapshots.
(Copy n paste these into your browser address box).


There's no speculation. We are headed south. Bears will kick serious
bull rear starting very soon. DOW JONES in 2006 will be seriously lower

... and it gets much worse, the next long term bottom will be in the
2010 area if my charts are right. I use arcs and trend lines. I don't
even need trendlines as arcs alone are plenty enough. All you longterm
investors, be short. be wise be safe and best of all be wealthy. If you

don't short, then dump your stocks now. Last warning. Serious long term

bear rallies are in the making. The next leg down will be drastic and
steep believe it. You heard it here. Steve.

Sorry for this repost, i had previously doubled up my jpg links.
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Steve
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:02 am    Post subject: Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET Reply with quote

You heard it here and here's the proof.


http://members.aol.com/DTyleer/DOW1.JPG
http://members.aol.com/DTyleer/DOW2.JPG


Check out these two links to two of my DOW JONES forecast snapshots.
(Copy n paste these into your browser address box).


There's no speculation. We are headed south. Bears will kick serious
bull rear starting very soon. DOW JONES in 2006 will be seriously lower

... and it gets much worse, the next long term bottom will be in the
2010 area if my charts are right. I use arcs and trend lines. I don't
even need trendlines as arcs alone are plenty enough. All you longterm
investors, be short. be wise be safe and best of all be wealthy. If you

don't short, then dump your stocks now. Last warning. Serious long term

bear rallies are in the making. The next leg down will be drastic and
steep believe it. You heard it here. Steve.

I had to repost as i had repeated my first jpg link sorry.
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Flasherly
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:55 am    Post subject: Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET Reply with quote

Steve wrote:
Quote:
Besides no one can tell what market we are in until it's over.

Some can .. speaking only for myself tho lol.

Be nice to see a little business rationale to accompany the spectral
art of charting - why, based on present market conditions, a chart
hypothetically will continue to some forseen end. For convience, last
month's correctional damper portends only too many means at present to
not avoid making up for lost money. A practical aspect I have account
when speaking for myself over tracts I have begun cautiously to eke out
compensation. Are you saying it's not enough that I should simply
deserve more, say, than someone like you - whose resources are
seemingly deployed as counter to mine and to esculating productivity?
If so, you're on. I'll take a piece of you. What I suspect, though,
is you're no less inclined to employ backdoor hedge measures, as would
anyone, in any event to achieve the quickest liquity into the safest
means to maximize profits. If not, you forgo a major investment
principle and my understanding of the purpose for diversity.
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Steve
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:01 am    Post subject: Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET Reply with quote

Quote:
What a load of rubbish! No one can accurately predict whether the market
will go up or down tomorrow, or next week or next month, let alone by
2011.

BWAHAHA!! Talk about someone who knows how to write a load
of rubbish! In the first place, unless your middle name is GOD,
it is IMPOSSIBLE to know what others do with their time, let
alone make such a bogus claim ..which only shows who is not
thinking too far. Maybe it's late where you are. Goes to show
you don't know anyone skilled at charts.

If you said I CAN'T forecast anything, then you may have a point.

But it can be done my friend with proper tools. I've been accurately
forecasting stocks for myself for years .. including the last four
major
earthquakes. Alaska will be shaking bigtime by 2015. The exacte day
and time will be much much more precise as the strike date nears.
I've been saying that the markets would be slightly bearish for the
last
four years. Many doubted me, but that's alright, no one's perfect.
That was the past, we are have a different situation shaping up.
by 2007 expect the markets to be much more bearish, prolly
bouncing a few more times before it really begins to happen tho.

But bottom line, I don't have the time nor interest to prove my
work to skeptics, just interested what other's think in different
places.

Quote:
The good thing about 2001 is that no one will remember your
prediction or who you are by then, or even by next week. And of course
"Steve" is hardly a definitive name, unless you think you are the only
one called that!

I can't understand this rumbling diarhea.

The name Steve is satisfactory for me .. at least here. But why does
this matter? All you have to bitch about? I don't have an interest to
make a name out of my name .. at least here.

Quote:
Instead of filling the NG with junk why don't you predict something that
can be tested. What will the Dow be at Friday close, with confidence limits?

Time will be the ultimate test for those who don't know my work or see
my accomplishments including forecasts of flooding in the south east.

I am collecting and building more chart data such as airline disasters
etc and will construct a team to help out soon. You absolutely can
chart almost any events provided you have enough accurate data AND
have the right forecast tools and experience with them. One is arcs.
Learn them and get rich.

Steve
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Steve
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:01 am    Post subject: Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET Reply with quote

Instead of forecasting stocks a few daze out, which is not only
meaningless for most as daytrading is a dead fad nowadays
and daytrading is currently not what i've been busy with lately,
but instead of short term forecasts, how about state lotteries?
That's where big money can be made. I've been dabbling with
them lately so instead I'll post a few lotto forecasts here in
the near future (a week or three) if I remember. Someone
remind me then. I'm almost done policing up an absolutely
stunningly robust program that is able to forecast the very
next bar (a very difficult endeavor believe me).

Thanks,
Steve
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Steve
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:01 am    Post subject: Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET Reply with quote

Quote:
Instead of filling the NG with junk why don't you predict something that
can be tested. What will the Dow be at Friday close, with confidence limits?


BWAHAHAHA.. What double speak! Hey have you forgot already!?
You just finished saying forecasting cannot be done!! LOL Fence sitting

backpeddlers make me laugh.
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Steve
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:01 am    Post subject: Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET Reply with quote

Quote:
What a load of rubbish! No one can accurately predict whether the market
will go up or down tomorrow, or next week or next month, let alone
by 2011.

BWAHAHA!! Talk about someone who vomits a load of rubbish!
In the first place, unless your middle name is GOD, it is
IMPOSSIBLE to make such a bogus claim ..which only shows
who is not thinking too far. Maybe it's late where you are. Goes
to show you don't know anyone skilled at charting.

If you said I CAN'T forecast anything, then you may have a point.

But it can be done my friend with proper tools. I've been accurately
forecasting stocks for myself for years .. including the last four
major
earthquakes. Alaska will be shaking bigtime by 2015. The exacte day
and time will be much much more precise as the strike date nears.
I've been saying that the markets would be slightly bearish for the
last
four years. Many doubted me, but that's alright, no one's perfect.
That was the past, we are have a different situation shaping up.
by 2007 expect the markets to be much more bearish, prolly
bouncing a few more times before it really begins to happen tho.

But bottom line, I don't have the time nor interest to prove my
work to skeptics, just interested what other's think in different
places.

Quote:
The good thing about 2001 is that no one will remember your
prediction or who you are by then, or even by next week. And of course
"Steve" is hardly a definitive name, unless you think you are the only
one called that!

I can't understand this rumbling diarhea.

The name Steve is satisfactory for me .. at least here. But why does
this matter? All you have to bitch about? I don't have an interest to
make a name out of my name .. at least here.

Quote:
Instead of filling the NG with junk why don't you predict something that
can be tested. What will the Dow be at Friday close, with confidence limits?

Time will be the ultimate test for those who don't know my work or see
my accomplishments including forecasts of flooding in the south east.

I am collecting and building more chart data such as airline disasters
etc and will construct a team to help out soon. You absolutely can
chart almost any events provided you have enough accurate data AND
have the right forecast tools and experience with them. One is arcs.
Learn them and get rich.

Steve
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Steve
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:01 am    Post subject: Re: US MARKETS IN A SERIOUS BEAR MARKET Reply with quote

Quote:
Instead of filling the NG with junk why don't you predict something that
can be tested. What will the Dow be at Friday close, with confidence limits?

BWAHAHAHA.. What double speak! Hey have you forgot alread!? You just
finished saying
forecasting cannot be done!! LOL Fence sitting backpeddlers make me
laugh.
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