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SG
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:02 am Post subject:
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No, I'm not naive enough to think that someone would switch from QB to
SBA for this. I was simply expanding on the points made earlier in the
thread about one aspect of SBA I personally find very useful.
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http://sba2006.blogspot.com
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Allan Martin
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:27 am Post subject:
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"SG" <sbaguru@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | No, I'm not naive enough to think that someone would switch from QB to
SBA for this. I was simply expanding on the points made earlier in the
thread about one aspect of SBA I personally find very useful.
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I didn't think so, but I bet there are a lot of users out there that will
believe the hype and think only SBA works with the office suite.
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Barrnabas Collins
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:10 am Post subject:
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On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:08:55 -0400, "Allan Martin"
<Allan@GreatGuy.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Oh, I see. It's not that you hate Microsoft your just jealous of Bill Gates.
Personally I admire the man.
You do realize that Microsoft is extremely anti competitive? Were you |
not paying attention during the whole anti trust legal battle?
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Barrnabas Collins
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:20 am Post subject:
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On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:24:56 -0400, "Allan Martin"
<Allan@GreatGuy.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Sure they introduce a new product so they can put all the others out of
business and then pack up and leave. How is it possible to hate so much that
your hate turns you into a moron?
You do realize they did exactly that to Stacker? Oh yeah....you |
probably had neer heard of Stacker.
Of course you probably weren't even using computers
back when hard drives were 10 meg you needed
programs like Stacker.
And then there is item this week where Microsoft
attmepted to "slip" their player on to MP3 players
in an exclusive set up?
Maybe you should read up on Monopolies,
anti competive practices, and anti trust
laws before you spout off more.
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Allan Martin
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:22 am Post subject:
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"Barrnabas Collins" <BarnabasCollinsonSFNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:08:55 -0400, "Allan Martin"
Allan@GreatGuy.com> wrote:
Oh, I see. It's not that you hate Microsoft your just jealous of Bill
Gates.
Personally I admire the man.
You do realize that Microsoft is extremely anti competitive? Were you
not paying attention during the whole anti trust legal battle?
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Old news. You might want to ask yourself why Palm will be running
Microsoft's operating system on their upcoming Palm Treo mobile phone and
not their own. Could it be that Microsoft has something to offer that
consumers want?
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Allan Martin
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:02 am Post subject:
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"Barrnabas Collins" <BarnabasCollinsonSFNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:24:56 -0400, "Allan Martin"
Allan@GreatGuy.com> wrote:
Sure they introduce a new product so they can put all the others out of
business and then pack up and leave. How is it possible to hate so much
that
your hate turns you into a moron?
You do realize they did exactly that to Stacker? Oh yeah....you
probably had neer heard of Stacker.
Of course you probably weren't even using computers
back when hard drives were 10 meg you needed
programs like Stacker.
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When you have to pay over $1,000 for the drive you don't forget. Yes big Al
was knee deep in computers and loved every moment I spent learning the ins
and outs of Bill's DOS 1.0
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And then there is item this week where Microsoft
attmepted to "slip" their player on to MP3 players
in an exclusive set up?
Maybe you should read up on Monopolies,
anti competive practices, and anti trust
laws before you spout off more.
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Chips
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:02 am Post subject:
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Thanks,
I was looking for somewhere to get more info.
GC
"HeyBub" <heybubNOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Chips wrote:
I'm thinking of trying it.
Have you actually ever used it?
Browse the
"microsoft.public.sba.general"
newsgroup in the
"msnews.microsoft.com"
news server.
You'll learn that SBA has a much better interface than QB and a friendlier
database to access externally. You'll also learn that SBA does not have
all the bells-and-whistles (features) of QB nor anywhere near the variety
of online banking accesses of QB.
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HeyBub
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:02 am Post subject:
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Allan Martin wrote:
| Quote: | "Barrnabas Collins" <BarnabasCollinsonSFNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:pt67m1linbo6rq6nr4lbmv0si7vc3g334l@4ax.com...
You sound like an idiot. Why do people that do not have a clue think
that they somehow gain creditability if they bash Microsoft? Why do
people think they are cute if they add an $ to anything that pertains
to Microsoft. Its so boring and totaly played out. We get it,
Microsoft's incredible sucess pisses you off.
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Who is this "Barrnabas Collins" to whom you constantly reply?
I don't see his posts. Must be being cut by SuperNews for being somehow
weird.
I, personally, like Micros~1 products and support them whenever I can. And
it's not just because I own a shit-load of Micros~1 stock, either (although
I was pleased to receive a $1600 special dividend check from them last
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Duncan Clark
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:03 pm Post subject:
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Historians believe that in newspost <11ma7tpei5i7389@news.supernews.com>
on Sun, 30 Oct 2005, HeyBub <heybubNOSPAM@gmail.com> penned the
following literary masterpiece:
| Quote: | Who is this "Barrnabas Collins" to whom you constantly reply?
I don't see his posts. Must be being cut by SuperNews for being somehow
weird.
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Subject: Re: Microsoft's Small Business Accounting Software 2006
From: Barrnabas Collins <BarnabasCollinsonSFNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 12:10:20 -0400
Message-ID: <pt67m1linbo6rq6nr4lbmv0si7vc3g334l@4ax.com>
Duncan
--
I love deadlines. I especially like the whooshing noise they make as
they go flying by.
Duncan Clark
GeneSys Ltd. |
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Greg Pasquariello
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:03 pm Post subject:
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"Elaine Burkham" <gpnkn@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:HO6dnY1WdaOSbMLeRVn-iQ@adelphia.com...
| Quote: | What if anything does anyone know how this compares to Quick Books 2006
Pro
or Contractor Edition.
Thanks for your thoughts
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I was using the beta for about 5 months. Some feedback...
1. It's a very nice looking program. Fits in well with all the other MS
desktop apps. Quickbooks looks a little cartoonish and old.
2. It is tightly integrated with Office. This is both good and bad.
Becuase of the integration with Outlook, all incoming/outgoing emails are
available and provide a means of tracking things you did with your
customers. On the other hand, printing and sending quotes, invoices, etc.
is painful because they all run through Word. Ugh.
3. The inventory list is horrible, just a single list, no hierarchy. Same
for the customer list if I recall (but check that).
4. Anything more advanced than BASIC accounting is not supported or not
supported very well.
5. It can sometimes be VERY slow.
6. It relies on Windows authentication and the dumbed down version of SQL
Server. This gives you a "real" database under the covers, which is nice
from the standpoint of managment/maintenance, but you also have to deal with
all the junk that comes with integration..... users must be windows users,
you must have the same user names on different computers across a network,
etc.
7. It can sometime be VERY slow.
8. Security (i.e. feature access control) is weak and limited. Quickbooks
is a little better.
9. It is very easily extendible. Applications written in newer MS
languages (C#, VB.NET) are extremely easy to write, much simpler than for
quickbooks.
10. VERY few banks are supported for online transactions. MS claims the
list of banks will updated continuously, but it hasn't changed in 2 months.
There are NO large banks supported at this time (Wells Fargo, BofA, Citi,
etc.)
In summary, SBA currently appears to be targeted to small mom-and-pop shops.
It does have good potential, but after commiting to it for 5 months, I
switchd back to Quickbooks. My accounting needs are minimal.
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Greg Pasquariello
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:03 pm Post subject:
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Oh, here's another thing... document templates (invoices, quotes, etc.)
exist as separate files and need to be distributed to every machine on which
they're used.
-Greg
"Greg Pasquariello" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | "Elaine Burkham" <gpnkn@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:HO6dnY1WdaOSbMLeRVn-iQ@adelphia.com...
What if anything does anyone know how this compares to Quick Books 2006
Pro
or Contractor Edition.
Thanks for your thoughts
I was using the beta for about 5 months. Some feedback...
1. It's a very nice looking program. Fits in well with all the other MS
desktop apps. Quickbooks looks a little cartoonish and old.
2. It is tightly integrated with Office. This is both good and bad.
Becuase of the integration with Outlook, all incoming/outgoing emails are
available and provide a means of tracking things you did with your
customers. On the other hand, printing and sending quotes, invoices, etc.
is painful because they all run through Word. Ugh.
3. The inventory list is horrible, just a single list, no hierarchy.
Same for the customer list if I recall (but check that).
4. Anything more advanced than BASIC accounting is not supported or not
supported very well.
5. It can sometimes be VERY slow.
6. It relies on Windows authentication and the dumbed down version of SQL
Server. This gives you a "real" database under the covers, which is nice
from the standpoint of managment/maintenance, but you also have to deal
with all the junk that comes with integration..... users must be windows
users, you must have the same user names on different computers across a
network, etc.
7. It can sometime be VERY slow.
8. Security (i.e. feature access control) is weak and limited.
Quickbooks is a little better.
9. It is very easily extendible. Applications written in newer MS
languages (C#, VB.NET) are extremely easy to write, much simpler than for
quickbooks.
10. VERY few banks are supported for online transactions. MS claims the
list of banks will updated continuously, but it hasn't changed in 2
months. There are NO large banks supported at this time (Wells Fargo,
BofA, Citi, etc.)
In summary, SBA currently appears to be targeted to small mom-and-pop
shops. It does have good potential, but after commiting to it for 5
months, I switchd back to Quickbooks. My accounting needs are minimal.
-Greg
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Elaine Burkham
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:03 pm Post subject:
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Thank you Greg for your input. It was very helpful. I have been playing
with it for a week or so and agree with your comments. Thanks again, Elaine |
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