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Enigman O'Maly
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:02 am    Post subject: Predicament Reply with quote
I run Quicken Premiere 2004. Recently, when I went to install it on a
new laptop PC, I discovered the install disk was lost. So I went out
the other day and bought Quicken Premiere 2006.

But before I upgrade, I'd like to know - does the product have a
"fall-back" feature during the install so that you can back out if you
don't like the latest version?

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Notan
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:02 am    Post subject: Re: Predicament Reply with quote
Enigman O'Maly wrote:
Quote:

I run Quicken Premiere 2004. Recently, when I went to install it on a
new laptop PC, I discovered the install disk was lost. So I went out
the other day and bought Quicken Premiere 2006.

But before I upgrade, I'd like to know - does the product have a
"fall-back" feature during the install so that you can back out if you
don't like the latest version?

No.

Notan
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Andrew
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:02 am    Post subject: Re: Predicament Reply with quote
Enigman O'Maly wrote:
Quote:

But before I upgrade, I'd like to know - does the product have a
"fall-back" feature during the install so that you can back out if
you don't like the latest version?


If you do install Q2006 and you don't like the way it works, remember one
important thing. It will change the format of your Quicken data files when
it first opens them, but will also create a backup copy in the old format
(ie: Q2004) in a backup directory. So at that point, you'd need to refer to
your old version (again, assuming you don't like the new one) and then
you'll manually have to go a copy back the old formated data in the backup
directory to whatever location you really wanted it to be at. In a sense,
this is a fall back for the data, not the executable!
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Regards -

- Andrew

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Mike L
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:15 am    Post subject: Re: Predicament Reply with quote
On Fri 21 Oct 2005 06:24:33p, Andrew wrote in
news:RMe6f.13912$1X1.9046@fe12.lga:

Quote:
Enigman O'Maly wrote:

But before I upgrade, I'd like to know - does the product have a
"fall-back" feature during the install so that you can back out if
you don't like the latest version?


If you do install Q2006 and you don't like the way it works, remember
one important thing. It will change the format of your Quicken data
files when it first opens them, but will also create a backup copy in
the old format (ie: Q2004) in a backup directory. So at that point,
you'd need to refer to your old version (again, assuming you don't
like the new one) and then you'll manually have to go a copy back the
old formated data in the backup directory to whatever location you
really wanted it to be at. In a sense, this is a fall back for the
data, not the executable!

To complete your fall back position, you will want to make sure to have on
hand an Installation CD for Q2004.


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Mike
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Notan
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:21 am    Post subject: Re: Predicament Reply with quote
Mike L wrote:
Quote:

On Fri 21 Oct 2005 06:24:33p, Andrew wrote in
news:RMe6f.13912$1X1.9046@fe12.lga:

Enigman O'Maly wrote:

But before I upgrade, I'd like to know - does the product have a
"fall-back" feature during the install so that you can back out if
you don't like the latest version?


If you do install Q2006 and you don't like the way it works, remember
one important thing. It will change the format of your Quicken data
files when it first opens them, but will also create a backup copy in
the old format (ie: Q2004) in a backup directory. So at that point,
you'd need to refer to your old version (again, assuming you don't
like the new one) and then you'll manually have to go a copy back the
old formated data in the backup directory to whatever location you
really wanted it to be at. In a sense, this is a fall back for the
data, not the executable!

To complete your fall back position, you will want to make sure to have on
hand an Installation CD for Q2004.

The OP said, "I discovered the install disk was lost."

Hence, the word "Predicament."

Notan
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Andrew
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:54 am    Post subject: Re: Predicament Reply with quote
Notan wrote:
Quote:
The OP said, "I discovered the install disk was lost."

Hence, the word "Predicament."

Notan

Subtle point I missed. Ergo, 'Predicament' might not be the correct word.
How about 'screwed'?

All bets are off.
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Regards -

- Andrew
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Mike L
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:01 am    Post subject: Re: Predicament Reply with quote
On Fri 21 Oct 2005 09:21:47p, Notan wrote in
news:4359A23B.6A8EED5C@ddress.com:

Quote:
Mike L wrote:

On Fri 21 Oct 2005 06:24:33p, Andrew wrote in
news:RMe6f.13912$1X1.9046@fe12.lga:

Enigman O'Maly wrote:

But before I upgrade, I'd like to know - does the product have a
"fall-back" feature during the install so that you can back out
if you don't like the latest version?


If you do install Q2006 and you don't like the way it works,
remember one important thing. It will change the format of your
Quicken data files when it first opens them, but will also create a
backup copy in the old format (ie: Q2004) in a backup directory.
So at that point, you'd need to refer to your old version (again,
assuming you don't like the new one) and then you'll manually have
to go a copy back the old formated data in the backup directory to
whatever location you really wanted it to be at. In a sense, this
is a fall back for the data, not the executable!

To complete your fall back position, you will want to make sure to
have on hand an Installation CD for Q2004.

The OP said, "I discovered the install disk was lost."

Hence, the word "Predicament."

Notan

I knew you lost it. Just wanted to point out how big your
predicament/fallback situation is after your planned Q2006 install ...
unless you buy a Q2004 on Ebay (or maybe I (or someone else here) could
sell you my/their Q2004D - I have Q2005D waiting to be installed).

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Mike
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Mike B
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:01 am    Post subject: Re: Predicament Reply with quote
"Enigman O'Maly" <NoOne@Home.com> wrote in message
news:lioil11d5gh0q1u9812pa4l4d9rspptv6p@4ax.com
Quote:
I run Quicken Premiere 2004. Recently, when I went to install it on a
new laptop PC, I discovered the install disk was lost. So I went out
the other day and bought Quicken Premiere 2006.

But before I upgrade, I'd like to know - does the product have a
"fall-back" feature during the install so that you can back out if you
don't like the latest version?

You can buy Quicken 2004 for a song on eBay.

--
Mike B
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Enigman O'Maly
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 3:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Predicament Reply with quote
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 00:01:39 -0500, "Mike B" <mxbNoSpam@ev1.net>
wrote:

Quote:
"Enigman O'Maly" <NoOne@Home.com> wrote in message
news:lioil11d5gh0q1u9812pa4l4d9rspptv6p@4ax.com
I run Quicken Premiere 2004. Recently, when I went to install it on a
new laptop PC, I discovered the install disk was lost. So I went out
the other day and bought Quicken Premiere 2006.

But before I upgrade, I'd like to know - does the product have a
"fall-back" feature during the install so that you can back out if you
don't like the latest version?

You can buy Quicken 2004 for a song on eBay.


Thanks to everyone for the comments/suggestions. One follow-up: is it
possible/advisable to do a separate install, so that the Q2004
executable is still available?

I'll also dig out my eBay userid...
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Mike B
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Predicament Reply with quote
"Enigman O'Maly" <NoOne@Home.com> wrote in message
news:m34kl118nn2ut3h4adqt67ocvin3c60cjr@4ax.com
Quote:
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 00:01:39 -0500, "Mike B" <mxbNoSpam@ev1.net
wrote:

"Enigman O'Maly" <NoOne@Home.com> wrote in message
news:lioil11d5gh0q1u9812pa4l4d9rspptv6p@4ax.com
I run Quicken Premiere 2004. Recently, when I went to install it
on a new laptop PC, I discovered the install disk was lost. So I
went out the other day and bought Quicken Premiere 2006.

But before I upgrade, I'd like to know - does the product have a
"fall-back" feature during the install so that you can back out if
you don't like the latest version?

You can buy Quicken 2004 for a song on eBay.


Thanks to everyone for the comments/suggestions. One follow-up: is it
possible/advisable to do a separate install, so that the Q2004
executable is still available?

I'll also dig out my eBay userid...

No, you cannot install a newer version of Quicken without it uninstalling
the older one. Once installed, it is possible to reinstall the older one,
but the complications are manyfold, including specific functions that won't
function.

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Mike B
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Notan
Guest
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Predicament Reply with quote
Mike B wrote:
Quote:

snip

No, you cannot install a newer version of Quicken without it uninstalling
the older one. Once installed, it is possible to reinstall the older one,
but the complications are manyfold, including specific functions that won't
function.

And, while I might sound like a mother hen, be sure to back up your data,
IN A SAFE PLACE, before updating... Once the data's been converted to the
updated format, there's no way to "go back," should you decide to revert
to an older version.

Notan
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Han
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Predicament Reply with quote
Notan <notan@ddress.com> wrote in news:435A4853.1296265F@ddress.com:

Quote:
And, while I might sound like a mother hen, be sure to back up your data,
IN A SAFE PLACE, before updating... Once the data's been converted to the
updated format, there's no way to "go back," should you decide to revert
to an older version.

Notan


I am in favor of backing up, then backing up again, but Quicken does save
the data from the old version in a separate directory. I used to use Q02,
but am now on Q05 (going to buy 06 later today). My old Q02 data are in a
subdirectory called <tada!!> Q02, off my data directory. Of course, a few
months after conversion this just takes up space, I would not want to go
back to that data (dating back to 1/23/05). Too much entered since.

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Best regards
Han
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Hank Arnold
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Predicament Reply with quote
IIRC, Q will automatically uninstall the old version. Maybe someone has a
work around to avoid it...

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Regards,
Hank Arnold

"Enigman O'Maly" <NoOne@Home.com> wrote in message
news:m34kl118nn2ut3h4adqt67ocvin3c60cjr@4ax.com...
Quote:
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 00:01:39 -0500, "Mike B" <mxbNoSpam@ev1.net
wrote:

"Enigman O'Maly" <NoOne@Home.com> wrote in message
news:lioil11d5gh0q1u9812pa4l4d9rspptv6p@4ax.com
I run Quicken Premiere 2004. Recently, when I went to install it on a
new laptop PC, I discovered the install disk was lost. So I went out
the other day and bought Quicken Premiere 2006.

But before I upgrade, I'd like to know - does the product have a
"fall-back" feature during the install so that you can back out if you
don't like the latest version?

You can buy Quicken 2004 for a song on eBay.


Thanks to everyone for the comments/suggestions. One follow-up: is it
possible/advisable to do a separate install, so that the Q2004
executable is still available?

I'll also dig out my eBay userid...
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Jerry Boyle
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Predicament Reply with quote
"Enigman O'Maly" <NoOne@Home.com> wrote in message
news:lioil11d5gh0q1u9812pa4l4d9rspptv6p@4ax.com...
Quote:
I run Quicken Premiere 2004. Recently, when I went to install it on a
new laptop PC, I discovered the install disk was lost. So I went out
the other day and bought Quicken Premiere 2006.

But before I upgrade, I'd like to know - does the product have a
"fall-back" feature during the install so that you can back out if you
don't like the latest version?

If you're using Windows XP you might consider using Windows System Restore,
i.e. back up your Quicken data and Quicken directory and its subdirectories
then take a System Checkpoint before you install Q06.

If you don't like Q06, uninstall it, do a System Restore then restore your
Quicken data and directory. I don't know for a fact that this will work
correctly but it may be worth a shot.
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Mike B
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:02 am    Post subject: Re: Predicament Reply with quote
"Jerry Boyle" <jerryboyle@att.net> wrote in message
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Quote:

If you don't like Q06, uninstall it, do a System Restore then restore
your Quicken data and directory. I don't know for a fact that this
will work correctly but it may be worth a shot.

The internet. You just gotta love it!

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Mike B
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