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Elaine Burkham
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Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:16 pm Post subject:
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Anyone test the beta version of Quickbooks 2006 Contractor edition or using
Contractor Edition 2005? Any thoughts Thanks in advance
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Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:51 pm Post subject:
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"Elaine Burkham" <gpnkn@adelphia.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Anyone test the beta version of Quickbooks 2006 Contractor edition or using
Contractor Edition 2005? Any thoughts Thanks in advance
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Thoughts about what exactly?
I don't use 2005 or 2006 but I seriously doubt they have done any
improvements or added any Construction related features.
The Construction Edition is a marketing gimmick targeted for people
who are very likely not computer literate and not able to tell that
the CE is exactly the same version like the main versions with a few
menu options arranged differently and called with a different name.
The two or three features relating to Construction in CE, like a
couple of special reports, change orders, etc, are so inadequate that
I seriously doubt they are used by even a 10% of CE users.
For a program that can't even sort correctly, there's no hope that
Intuit will ever have any interest in implementing decent Construction
related features. Quickbooks is not good for job costing related
businesses like Construction where everything revolves around a Job
and not a date. It can keep track of invoices and bill payments and
the like, very basic bookkeeping for very basic needs, but it can't
produce reports that are sensible for a Construction related business.
Meaning, if the regular version is OK for you then CE has nothing to
offer unless you are so lucky as to find the half-assed attempts at
one or two extra reports exactly what you were looking for, but I
doubt it.
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Allan Martin
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:03 am Post subject:
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"Elaine Burkham" <gpnkn@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Anyone test the beta version of Quickbooks 2006 Contractor edition or
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Contractor Edition 2005? Any thoughts Thanks in advance
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Version 2006 should be out in early November.
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Elaine Burkham
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:02 pm Post subject:
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Thank you Alan and Nospam for your replies. I am currently using QB Pro
2002 and they no longer offer updates for it so I find myself in need of
another accounting software for our small construction company. I am
considering either QB Pro 2006 or CE 2006. Thank you for your input.
Elaine
"Elaine Burkham" <gpnkn@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Anyone test the beta version of Quickbooks 2006 Contractor edition or
using
Contractor Edition 2005? Any thoughts Thanks in advance
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:41 pm Post subject:
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"Elaine Burkham" <gpnkn@adelphia.net> wrote:
| Quote: | I am
considering either QB Pro 2006 or CE 2006. Thank you for your input.
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I don't know if they still give out demos. If you can get one for CE
get it and see if the (non) features are worth it but it's unlikely.
They're mostly after the additional $150 from people that can't tell
the difference. When you see how they have implemented Change Orders
you'll see what I mean.
They still can't show what job a bill is for on open bills reports.
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Allan Martin
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 10:08 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | "Elaine Burkham" <gpnkn@adelphia.net> wrote:
I am
considering either QB Pro 2006 or CE 2006. Thank you for your input.
I don't know if they still give out demos. If you can get one for CE
get it and see if the (non) features are worth it but it's unlikely.
They're mostly after the additional $150 from people that can't tell
the difference. When you see how they have implemented Change Orders
you'll see what I mean.
They still can't show what job a bill is for on open bills reports.
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Don't you get it? No one except you cares.
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Elaine Burkham
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 10:44 pm Post subject:
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Out of curiosity "Nospam" what accounting software do you currently use that
does everything you need it to do.
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Allan Martin
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:11 pm Post subject:
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"Elaine Burkham" <gpnkn@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Out of curiosity "Nospam" what accounting software do you currently use
that
does everything you need it to do.
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No software package on the face of the earth will ever do now, or in the
future what he wants. Hejust loves to complain.
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Sparky
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Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:03 am Post subject:
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Intuit's "MasterBuilder" will do what you want, but it's not inexpensive. I
paid $5600 for my version. It has a steep learning curve and the data entry
is a bit cumbersome compared to QB, but for construction, it is light years
ahead of QB.
"Allan Martin" <Allan@GreatGuy.com> wrote in message
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"Elaine Burkham" <gpnkn@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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Out of curiosity "Nospam" what accounting software do you currently use
that
does everything you need it to do.
No software package on the face of the earth will ever do now, or in the
future what he wants. Hejust loves to complain.
Thanks
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Elaine Burkham
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Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:01 pm Post subject:
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Thanks for the reply, but thats a little more than I care to spend. Thanks
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Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:03 am Post subject:
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"Elaine Burkham" <gpnkn@adelphia.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Out of curiosity "Nospam" what accounting software do you currently use that
does everything you need it to do.
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None. All have shortcomings. But the ones in Quickbooks are the worst.
Any 1st year student in programming can immediately see the horrid
level of quality that Quickbooks is.
As far as Construction specific features, it's even worse.
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Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:03 am Post subject:
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"Sparky" <thec@erols.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Intuit's "MasterBuilder" will do what you want, but it's not inexpensive.
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That one is another horror and a half. Intuit didn't write the code so
I can't blame them for it.
MB can do a lot of things because it's a more mature database oriented
application but in order to get it to do them one has to spit blood
for 3 hours minimum. Selecting vendor bills to pay, paying them and
printing the checks is an exercise in sadomasochism.
Reporting features are OK and Quickbooks should have the same ones but
designing a new report is another form of torture comparable to the
night shift in Abu Graib.
MB is indeed light years ahead of QB because QB is so far behind that
with a couple more usability enhancements MB will catch up with QB
from behind.
Is MB still being developed? I talked to some regional sales manager
drones some time ago who were probably shoe salesmen or something
before trying to sell MB.
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Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:03 am Post subject:
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"Allan Martin" <Allan@GreatGuy.com> wrote:
| Quote: | They still can't show what job a bill is for on open bills reports.
Don't you get it? No one except you cares.
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It's not that nobody cares, Mr Cheerleader. It's because most QB's
users are ignorant (as I am about electrical circuits) and don't know
that it is trivial for a program to show what job a bill is for.
It's unthinkable that someone who runs a Construction, Remodeling,
etc, company does not want to see what job his/her open bills are for.
But first of all they don't take the time to complain, and second
Construction people are generally computer illiterate and don't know
that this information is easy to put on a piece of paper.
Now go cheer.
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Gary E
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Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:05 am Post subject:
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I've been working with a client that just upgraded their MB to version 11.
Don't even think about it unless you have a network infrastructure that is
top notch. They modified the code to do some sort of license
locking/checking that will time out the application. This in turn cause
index problems. I inherited this network, but have ended up replacing
switches, routers, jacks and cabling. A real PIA
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<nospam@invalid.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | "Sparky" <thec@erols.com> wrote:
Intuit's "MasterBuilder" will do what you want, but it's not inexpensive.
That one is another horror and a half. Intuit didn't write the code so
I can't blame them for it.
MB can do a lot of things because it's a more mature database oriented
application but in order to get it to do them one has to spit blood
for 3 hours minimum. Selecting vendor bills to pay, paying them and
printing the checks is an exercise in sadomasochism.
Reporting features are OK and Quickbooks should have the same ones but
designing a new report is another form of torture comparable to the
night shift in Abu Graib.
MB is indeed light years ahead of QB because QB is so far behind that
with a couple more usability enhancements MB will catch up with QB
from behind.
Is MB still being developed? I talked to some regional sales manager
drones some time ago who were probably shoe salesmen or something
before trying to sell MB.
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Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:10 pm Post subject:
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"Gary E" <scarecrow_n_ozNOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I've been working with a client that just upgraded their MB to version 11.
Don't even think about it unless you have a network infrastructure that is
top notch. They modified the code to do some sort of license
locking/checking that will time out the application. This in turn cause
index problems. I inherited this network, but have ended up replacing
switches, routers, jacks and cabling. A real PIA
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That's the fingerprint of Intuit incompetence - as expected.
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